Environmental Press # 338

Subj: OOG: Poseidon Study Session at 4 PM, not 5 PM Monday, Nov.3
Date: 11/1/2003 9:27:59 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: Jon V3
To: Jon V3
Dear Ocean Outfall Group (OOG) and SEHBNA:

The Poseidon Desalination Study Session item on Monday, November 3 will be occurring at 4 PM, not 5 PM, as I misstated in a previous email. This will be heard in the Huntington Beach City Council Chambers at 2000 Main Street, HB. Remember 4 PM, not 5 PM. The Poseidon matter, EIR and Conditional Use Permit, are then scheduled for a regular HB City Council meeting on November 17.

As you may recall, there are many cogent issues surrounding this matter that warrant careful consideration for the HB City Council to simply deny the project outright. The HB Planning Commission voted to send the matter to the City Council on a 3-3 vote to deny, which meant they sent it to the Council without a recommendation. Some of the issues include:


1. The harmful effects of the Poseidon discharge on the ocean.

2. The additive effects of the harmful effects from Poseidon added to the AES power plant operations.

3. The poor operational history of desal plants built by Poseidon (Tampa Bay).

4. The unforeseen difficulties and bankruptcies encountered by Tampa Bay.

5. The issue of privatizing public water supplies and the threats of environmental noncompliance and terrorist access if the plant becomes owned by international conglomerates.

6. The growth inducing impacts of the desal operations (Ranch Mission Viejo, Trabuco area).

7. The issue of HB experiencing the downstream impacts of increased densification and urbanization of inland areas while not receiving any benefits of the desal operations. (runoff, ocean pollution).

8. The local impacts of increased industrial use in a residential neighborhood (SEHBNA).

9. The prolongation of the AES power plant by the Poseidon addition.

10. The increase in beach pollution due to increased discharge into the ocean from the AES discharge pipe.

11. The impacts on wetlands.

12. The as-yet unknown impacts of entrainment and impingement within the AES intake pipes.

Everybody has different concerns. Here are some from another citizen that were relayed to me:

the Poseidon Tampa Bay project bankruptcy and sale,

the lack of contracts to purchase the water (no buyers),

the high cost of the water to the purchaser (other sources cheaper),

the bacterial effects of pooling water with AES,

the concentrating of pollutants then put back into the ocean,

the likely sale of the project as soon as approved or built to a local agency,

the loss of tax revenue when Poseidon project sold to a local agency,

the extending of AES due to water and/or electricity for Poseidon,

the effect on local community (SE HB wants parks and such, not more industry),

the effect on the wetlands recently purchased next door,

no benefit to HB but HB gets all the harm,

and on and on, so many more.

Benefits - source of water too expensive to purchase, more industry in SE HB, profits for Poseidon at the expense of HB residents, and ..."


I think it would be a good idea if other people posted their concerns to me by reply mail. Please feel free to do so.

In the meantime, you can get access to the EIR at the link:

Poseidon Desal EIR

I would also suggest reading the Coastal Commission letter of May 8, 2003, which was never adequately addressed by the City at:

CCC Poseidon Letter to HB 5-8-03

Hope you can make it Monday. It would be great to have a large turnout at the Study Session (for those available at 4 PM). The City Council needs to see that the citizens care, even if you do not plan to speak at Public Comments.


Jan Vandersloot (949) 548-6326

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